The true essence of human nature is seen during times of great hardships as can be seen comparing Pericles' Funeral Oration and the plague in Thucydides', The History of the Peloponnesian War. Thucydides accounts for many different aspects of justice, power, and human nature through his text. The order, the style of his writing, choice of words, and relations of what he believes actually happened, allows the reader to make different inferences about the message he's trying to convey. The juxtaposition of the two stories portrays many different characteristics to investigate and analyze.
The question can be raised, why compare the funeral oration and the plague with each other, the answer simply lies in its order. Thucydides shows the reader the differences between what is seen of power, human nature, and justice by placing the plague right after the funeral oration. There is a great shift between these two stories. The implicit teaching using irony and arrangement by Thucydides' allows for the depiction of how easily strong and powerful Athens can fall apart.
Pericles describes Athens greatness by saying, "our city as a whole is a lesson for Greece." He not only has great things to say about the city but can be seen since there in view around them is the glory of Athens, its great buildings. He puts emotions into the people by describing the vast empire, the ancestors and forefathers who fought and made it bigger, their daily achievements in making it even greater. It sounds like an Athens that was built through generations of hard work and is this great strong city. Pericles says, "For Athens is the only power now that is greater than her fame when it comes to test" (43). This quote nor many of the feelings ...
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...w the dead bodies anywhere, they buried them with honor. They even went as far as to search through the buildings ruins in order to find any other victims.
Athenians didn't show the signs Pericles had said they were well known of. Thucydides was trying to justify his view that when people are put in times of chaos and hardship, they're true evil human nature comes out. They become not people of honor and strength but people interested in themselves and shameful in their actions. An example of one of the greatest tragedies shows just the opposite, sometimes extreme situations can bring out the actual good courageous and honorable side in people. Thucydides showed Athenians as people who didn't live up to what they were known for, but really weren't as great, strong, as they boasted they were.
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The History of the Pelopennesian War by Thucydides
...proud rationalization of its superiority. Balancing security, happiness, and values, Athens is a shining example of freedom, opportunity and justice. It is a nation that both builds itself on and produces uniquely spirited citizens. The sentiments of Pericles’ truly are reminiscent of modern day American Exceptionalism. “I doubt if the world can produce a man who, where he has only himself to depend upon, is equal to so many emergencies, and graced by so happy a versatility, as the Athenian.” (2.41.1).
Thucydides was right to claim that all wars can be explained by Fear, Honor, and Interest. All Wars are related to the three characteristics as stated by Dr. Nation (Dr. Nation video). The Athenians thought process was that the weak would be ruled by the strong and that was the nature of conflict (Strassler p. 43). Looking at the Peloponnesian war itself will illustrate how fear, honor and interest were involved with how this war developed. The initial unnamed Athenian that made that statement was probably using it to deter war with Sparta when it mostly incited the war (Dr. Nation Video). The Athenians wanted to maintain and sustain their city state but also expand it. They were expanding through their alliances and this is what invoked the
An Analysis of Thucydides' Views on the Melian Dialogue The Melian Dialogue is a debate between Melian and Athenian representatives concerning the sovereignty of Melos. The debate did not really occur-the arguments given by each side were of Thucydides own creation. Thus it is reasonable to assume that we can tease out Thucydides' own beliefs.
Pericles gave a few reasons for giving this funeral oration. The main purpose Pericles gave his speech was to praise the Athenian war dead. For example, in the speech he states, “When men’s deeds have been brave, they should be honored in deed only and with such honor as this public funeral”. He goes on to explain in the speech that a friend of the dead who knows all the facts is more likely to think that the words of the speaker are not good enough or do not meet their expectations. Although a listener that does not know the dead will be envious of anything that surpasses his own powers or knowledge. He gives reasoning for this in the speech by stating, “Mankind are tolerant of the praises of others so long as each hearer thinks he can do as well or nearly as well himself, but, when the speaker rises above him, jealousy is aroused and he begins to be incredulous”. His speech was also meant to be a tribute to the city of Athens and the way of life there. Pericles wanted to convince the people of Athens that their city is worth dying for. To do this he talks about the ancestors and how their land has been passed down from generation to generation.
Imagining a general with great wealth, integrity, and great perverseness can only begin the learning of Pericles and his ways of being a leader of Athens. His risk-taking, leadership, and his intelligence truly show what type of person he was. Although there were people that thought he was not worthy of his position, he had many supporters and people that idolized, admired, and trusted him, making him one of the most brilliant people ever to step foot in Athens.
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Bodies were cremated not buried and there was no book of remembrance because this is the Brave New World and they are trying to forget the past, and only look on to the future
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