Comparing The Orange Order And Social Violence In Mid-Nineteenth Century Saint John

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This comparison essay will be analyzing the arguments of Scott W. See’s “The Orange Order and Social Violence in Mid-Nineteenth Century Saint John” and Gordon M. Winder’s “Trouble in the North End: The Geography of Social Violence in Saint John, 1840 – 1860” and their perspective of what the caused the social violence in Saint John. By finding the pros and cons of the arguments of each article, this paper will determine which article had the more realistic arguments. The focus of Scott W. See’s article “The Orange Order and Social Violence in Mid-Nineteenth Century Saint John” is the explanation of the violent riots between the Orangemen and the Irish Catholics in 1840s New Brunswick using New Brunswick’s crippled economy as the root cause. …show more content…

Winder’s “Trouble in the North End: The Geography of Social Violence in Saint John, 1840 – 1860” explains the violence in 1840 Saint John through the perspective of political geography. Normally, an ethnic segregation occurs because of various reasons whether it be to maintain culture, protection, or the ghettos are the only affordable shelter to the newly immigrants. The segregation of the ethnic groups kept the populations at peace. However the geological segregation between the Catholics and Protestants did not occur since the potato famine lead to an overpopulation of Catholic immigrants in Saint John. The over populated Catholics expanded where the two populations collided and no line of segregation was determined. The dispute between the Irish Catholics and a group of Irish Protestant who refer to themselves as the Orangemen was about territorial control. The Protestants began asserting their control over Saint John by gaining position of authority that enabled them to have monopoly over the violence within the city. Their power allowed them to freely exclude, discriminate against all elements all things that they disproved of. The Catholics retaliated where the contempt for each group escalated into violent acts and skirmishes. The purposes of the battles were not to demonstrate superior military power, but targeted strategic and symbolic locations to demonstrate sovereignty over …show more content…

Scott W. See’s perspective is from an economic standpoint. By examining New Brunswick’s economy during the 1840s, he concluded that the cause of the social violence in Saint John, New Brunswick is because of an economic depression that occurred during the same time as the Irish potato famine. The potato famine influenced a large population of Irish Catholics to immigrate to New Brunswick and because the two phenomena occurred at the same time, the protestant native to Saint John correlated their economic suffrage with the immigration of the Irish Catholics. The high population and the scarce availability of jobs turned into a competition between the Protestants and the Catholics for survival. The protestant’s violent act towards the Catholics was in hopes that the Catholics will migrate to another location and New Brunswick’s economy will recover. See also points out the violence between the Protestant and the Catholics declines after New Brunswick’s economy recovered. See effectively used the timeline to portray his perspective on what caused the social violence in Saint John. The correlation of violence in Saint John starting and ending at the same time as New Brunswick’s economic depression makes it easier to believe that there is a relation between economy and the social violence, thus strengthening See’s view. By demonstrating the timeline correlation of

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