How much sympathy do you have for the woman in Tony Kytes arch

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How much sympathy do you have for the woman in Tony Kytes arch
deceiver’ and Tickets please ?

In this essay I am going to argue about how much sympathy I have for
woman in the 2 stories that I have studied. The two stories I have
studied are ‘Tony Kytes arch-deceiver’ and ‘Tickets please’.

"Tony Kytes: arch deceiver" was set at the end of the nineteenth
century in a rural community which seems unaffected by the Industrial
Revolution, remaining traditional in both the way of life and the
attitudes of the people. The members of the community are very relaxed
in the way that they live, riding around in the carts, being very
leisurely, especially the women who did hardly any work other than in
the house. "Tickets Please", set 25 years later, has a much more urban
setting with a tougher, faster lifestyle, with all the danger and
excitement of the tramlines shown in the assertive and self-assured
behaviour of the women who work on them. The men were away at war and
the women were doing jobs which had previously been thought suitable
only for men. They had been given freedom and were empowered and able
to take liberties giving them confidence and making them examine their
own lives and ambitions. They were beginning to believe that they were
equal in status to men, and therefore were no longer acting in such a
traditional, gentle, delicate and soft manner. Both stories tell us,
that men at this time like to be able to have the prettiest girl, and
enjoy being able to choose from several. In "Tony Kytes" it appears
very important for the women to be good looking, as they are all
mentioned in terms of their looks, being described as "dashing" or
"handsome". The women are aware that looks are important and even
think that this alone will enable them to find a husband.

Tony Kytes the Arch Deceiver" is a funny story of an afternoon when
Tony was driving home from the market in his wagon. A pretty girl
called Unity to who he was quite close before he met his present
fiancé stopped him and asked him to give her a lift home. They were
riding along, having a flirtatious conversation, when Tony saw Milly,
his fiancé. Fearing her displeasure on seeing Unity riding with him on
the wagon, he manages to persuade Unity to hide at the back of the
wagon. ‘avoid all unpleasantness, which I know ye can't bear any more
than I, will ye lie down in the back part of the wagon, and let me

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cover you over with the tarpaulin till Milly has passed?’ This shows
how he lies and tricks women into doing things. Extraordinarily, later
in the journey Tony manages to persuade Milly to do the same thing
when he sees yet another young lady, this time called Hannah. ‘Milly
my dear could you please hide under the sacks at the foot of the wagon
to avoid any unpleasantness from Hannah.’ At the end of the journey
the three young ladies discover each other's presence. After a brief
period of mayhem, Milly and Tony are alone again, planning their
wedding. He is also known for his wealth and good looks ‘not enough to
hurt the looks in a woman’s eye.’ Tony kytes is fairly well known for
his looks and wealth ‘ not enough to be hurt the looks in a woman’s
eye’ this made him popular with woman ‘He was quite the women's
favorite, and in return for their likings he loved 'em in shoals’
which would often get him into trouble. Tony has his pick of women and
hes not very decisive as every woman he meets falls in love with him
and tactfully implies she is better than the last tony seems to enjoy
playing around with the womans feelings but I think secreatly they’ve
seen through his game Unity says "Can you say I'm not pretty, Tony",
in order to woo him. Although they may seem naïve and weak, the women
aren't foolish and act very coy and are actually more knowing than
they may first appear. They manipulate Tony, speaking in a "tender
sort of chide". Here Unity pretends to be sweet and innocent in order
to win his admiration, making him think that he is totally and
completely in control of the women. Finally tony has too make a
decision between unity, sallet, Hannah Jollier and Milly he panics ‘
why he had ever said a word about marriage to milly or Unity while
Hannah jollier was in question’ but tony remains to keep his options
open This proves Tony to be very selfish. He has a great lack of
thought for others and wants the best for himself. "The more he looked
at her the more he liked her,’ Tony has found Hannah to be the most
attractive woman, and decides to marry her.

He’s very superficial and shallow, as he is with Hannah because of her
looks. I get the impression that if Tony Kytes had been living in the
20th Century, he would not have got married at all. Because of the
time, it was frowned upon to do anything intimate before marriage. We
can see an illustration of this fact when Tony is speaking to his
father. "Don't go driving about the country with Jolliver's daughter
and making a scandal" The marriage also makes a point about the times
they lived in were a good looking woman was expected to marry a rich
man. So perhaps we should’t feel symathy towards the women as there
intentions may have been to marry rich but just got caught up in the
emotion along the way. Therefore my sympathy is limited towards the
woman they are aware of each other and the prenscene tony has with
them so I feel like they have themselves to blame for the situation.

John Thomas in " Tickets Please" " flirts with the girl conductors and
also has a reputation for playing the field ‘he flirts with the girl
conductors in the morning and walks out with them in the dark of
night’ this shows he uses woman for his pleasure and doesent want a
relationship ‘when she started to take an intelliegent interest in him
his life his character, he sheered off’ this makes you feel sympathy
towards the woman as they get there hopes up of being ‘the one’ John
Thomas possibly had the confidence to do this because it was "war
time" and " cripples and hunch backs…" were not at war he was aware
that he would be found very attractive compared to the other men and
took advantage of the situation. He unluckily has the same name as a
nickname for a mans genitals ‘coddy’. I think this is a reference
towards his inability to hold down a stable relationship, he only uses
women to go to bed with them. John Thomas has a 'nocturnal presence'
in the lives of women and the story focuses on his relationship with
Annie. We are given the hint that he may be indulging in sexual
relationships with the women, when the narrator mentions:"The girls
quit the service frequently" There is no evidence in the text, but a
strong suggestion he may have made these women pregnant.He treats
woman with no respect and treats them like objects.

Both stories are set in different periods. This affects the way in
which the characters behave. The girls in Tickets Please are 'fearless
young hussies' whereas Milly - a female character from Tony Kytes is a
'nice, light, small, tender little thing'. They have a many
similarities as well as differences. There is a strong bond of
co-operation between the women in Tickets Please. They all work
together and as a team to get their revenge on John Thomas. In
contrast the women in Tony Kytes are all competing against each other
to win Tony Kytes: The main reason for this is the period it is set
in. We know Tickets Please is set in WW1 as the narrator mentions
"Since we are in war-time"He belongs with the ladies because when
Laura Sharp said 'ladies only', John Thomas replies with 'That's me!'
John Thomas had 'all the arts of love making' and he was 'especially
good at holding a girl'. This shows his seductive charms and how
experienced he is. Still John Thomas is shallow and lacks commitment.
He was consciously working his way through the women working on the
trams and left them distraught. He had no sense of commitment, which
shows him to be the opposite of Tony Kytes. John Thomas 'hated
intelligent interest' and he intended to remain a 'nocturnal
presence'. There was an imperious refusal to share Annie's affections.
John Thomas didn't want to become an individual to Annie. He never has
to face any consequences until Annie The key way in which Tony Kytes
is different to John Thomas is the way in which he treats the women.
Tony Kytes genuinely likes all three of the women:'Would have kissed
them all round'cJohn Thomas just uses them for his own pleasure. Tony
Kytes wasn't a philanderer but he was still the 'women's favourite'.
He is more boyish looking and doesn't have the manly features like the
moustache.

Tony Kytes is polite and respectful and he addresses them using
endearments such as 'darling' 'coming wife' and 'dear Hannah'. He
speaks more 'tender and tender' He doesn't want to consciously hurt
them whereas John Thomas is consciously hurting them as he has a brash
and a more abrupt manner. He lacks pleasantness and chivalry to women.
Tony Kytes would have been brought up to be respectful to women - we
know he doesn't like to humiliate the women, Tony Kytes lies to spare
the feelings of the woman. For example he says to Hannah he is
whispering because he has a 'kind of hoarseness' when the real reason
for his whispering is for the reason that he has Milly and Unity
hiding in the back of the wagon and he doesn't want them to hear the
endearments he is using towards Hannah: "How low you talk, Tony"
Another thing both of the men have very much in difference is that
John Thomas is only interested in short-term relationships whereas
Tony Kytes wants commitment and marriage. Overall both men enjoy their
success with women.

John Thomas deals with a much stronger group of females. Still my
sympathy for John is very limited, I believe he gets exactly what he
deserves, he treat women a lot worse than how Tony Kytes did, and he
was way less of a gentleman, than Tony Kytes. So out of the two
stories I believe ‘tony kytes, the arch deceiver deserves the most
sympathy because john Thomas’s women got there own back and gave him
what he deserved although annie took it hard ‘ I would’t touch him,`
she said. But her face quivered with a kind of agony’ whereas tony
kytes woman didt fight back and broke into tears ‘Milly was sobbing
her heart out’ and they never managed to get there justice as tony
didt end up alone but with Milly he used his charm and lies to get her
and she gave in "Well, Milly," he says at last, going up to her, "it
do seem as if fate had ordained that it should be you and I, or
nobody. And what must be must be I suppose. Hey, Milly? "If you like,
Tony. You didn't really mean what you said to them?" "Not a word of
it," declares Tony, bringing down his fist upon his palm.’ Milly was
a weak and stupid woman she should never of let him win.
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