...des of Sophocles seen in the two works of Plato and Aristophanes couldn’t be more different. While its known that Aristophanes’ Clouds isn’t a legitimate depiction of who Socrates actually was in his life but more of a parody of who he was, it can be assumed that he was a wise man but probably not really shut up in a house with groups of students that he was paid to teach. While Aristophanes saw Socrates as a man with good character, in Plato’s Apology almost the opposite can be found, where Socrates was portrayed as a man who saw himself with a greater purpose and the way that he was tended to irritate many Athenians that he interacted with. Seeing the differences in both depictions of Socrates, along with some of the qualities in the same text that went against the qualities that were pointed out shows that neither is the exact way that Socrates was in antiquity.
The last person to speak is Socrates. First, he examines Agathon’s speech through a series of questions where Agathon finds himself rejecting many of the points that he previously made. While Agathon’s speech is beautifully delivered, according to Socrates, it is incorrect because it lacks real philosophical content. In the midst of all the questions, Socrates comes to the conclusion that “Love is of something; second, that it is ...
Plato’s Phaedrus deifies traditions and customs of ancient Greek writing. Plato’s narrative uses dialogue to teach the reader about rhetoric and love. Rhetoric as defined by Plato “is the art of moving the soul with words (speeches)”. Plato begins Phaedrus by introducing two characters; Phaedrus, a young man who is interested in becoming a great speaker, and Socrates, an older resident and philosopher of Athens. Plato provides the reader with three speeches each presenting a separate view on the three kinds of lovers. Throughout these three speeches the reader gains an insight on persuasive ethics. The first speech is fair-minded when describing characteristic differences of the lover and non-lover. The second speech is slightly brash presenting a type
Why is Alcibiades brought into the Symposium? Initially in the Symposium, love is described: where it came from, what it is like. Diotima explains to Socrates the progression of love, as it gets more perfect. First, one loves beautiful bodies, then the souls within bodies, then the beauty of laws, activities, and customs, and finally the beauty of knowledge itself. It seems like she is saying the beauty of knowledge is the same as the knowledge of beauty. Then comes the speech of Alcibiades about Socrates. It seems as if Plato is saying that Socrates learned the lessons of Diotima; that he is on this progression, past beautiful bodies, and it sounds like he is close to the beauty of knowledge, because he can give great speeches. Alcibiades, meanwhile, is more at the stage of loving souls, because that is what attracted him to Socrates. Alcibiades desired that knowledge that Socrates had, he wanted to learn from him. He said that he felt so good around him but also felt so bad, because he wanted to be a better person for/with him. Perhaps this is the feeling of butterflies Kate was talking about? When you feel so nervous when you like someone, and can't help but wonder why they should like you, and count your faults, but you are so attracted to them in all their goodness the butterflies kind of feel great! Alcibiades has knowledge of beauty, and of Socrates' beautiful soul. Socrates loves knowledge, and souls, and has reached the goal of loving.
In “The Apology,” Socrates represents himself in his own trial. He boldly questions the morality of the people of court. In this report, I will be analyzing portions of “The Apology” in order to reveal the intellectuality of this text within this time frame. I will only discuss bits of “The Apology“ on account that it is a lengthy piece. However, before discussing the speech it is important to set the scene. Socrates was born in 469 B.C.E. and lived to 399 B.C.E. (Nails, 2014). What we do know about him is second-hand knowledge, or recounts from his former students, Plato and Xenophon (“Plato and Socrates”). Nevertheless, his legacy has influenced philosophy and continues to do so.
For these two articles that we read in Crito and Apology by Plato, we could know Socrates is an enduring person with imagination, because he presents us with a mass of contradictions: Most eloquent men, yet he never wrote a word; ugliest yet most profoundly attractive; ignorant yet wise; wrongfully convicted, yet unwilling to avoid his unjust execution. Behind these conundrums is a contradiction less often explored: Socrates is at once the most Athenian, most local, citizenly, and patriotic of philosophers; and yet the most self-regarding of Athenians. Exploring that contradiction, between Socrates the loyal Athenian citizen and Socrates the philosophical critic of Athenian society, will help to position Plato's Socrates in an Athenian legal and historical context; it allows us to reunite Socrates the literary character and Athens the democratic city that tried and executed him. Moreover, those help us to understand Plato¡¦s presentation of the strange legal and ethical drama.
(9) Plato, The Apology, in: The Works of Plato, The Nottingham Society, New York, vol. III, p. 91. (the year of publication unknown).
Also, Socrates consistently elevates truth over rhetoric with statements such as this: “Pay no attention t...
In the reading, it explains that Socrates is wealthy, educated, has a high status and honored, but Socrates believes all of it is worthless, harmful and damaging to the soul. The soul is all that matters because it is eternal. When he was on death row, he didn’t really fight to save his life. He knows his potential and is refusing to take control and live up to it. He truly doesn't care whether he dies and is willing to throw hi...
Socrates was wise men, who question everything, he was found to be the wise man in Athens by the oracle. Although he was consider of being the wises man alive in those days, Socrates never consider himself wise, therefore he question everything in order to learned more. Socrates lived a poor life, he used to go to the markets and preach in Athens he never harm anyone, or disobey any of the laws in Athens, yet he was found guilty of all charges and sentence to die.