Odysseus As A Good Greek Man In The Iliad And The Odyssey

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If you look at art representing Ancient Greece – Contemporary or otherwise, you see large muscular men deep at though or speaking with skill to a crowd. In the eyes of the Greeks men needed to aspire to the wit of Odysseus, the skills of Achilles and, fulfill the duties of their station. The array of skills, traits, and actions that make for an ideal man in the Homeric epics vary from our own values in some ways, but there are similar to modern universal desires for men from women and can be observed in the ancient text. Not only could this collection serve as guidance for a time travelling Bachelor, it is useful in understanding what qualities men were told to strive toward in their own endeavors. They ideas put forth are proven as valuable …show more content…

Odysseus is known for his romantic encounters and his strength, but among the Mycenaean troops at Troy his most admirable asset seems to be his wily wit and skills as an orator. Whether he is motivating a war torn band to,” hear the words of men better than them, [for] they are weak and lack courage, [they are] worthless in war or counsel,” or lashing at the insufferable Thersites,” None are baser than you,” he says, “[who] followed the Atreidae to Troy, so you least of all should sound a king’s name with your tongue,” The men around Odysseus in this moment rally with Odysseus – am man of high arête, whom they respect. Odysseus not only shows the value of his guile through his speech, he demonstrates intellects importance to Greek culture as he chastises Thersite’s demeaning challenge to his superiors. In Greek culture public speaking, and intellect are very important, a man without these babbles, a man like Odysseus who demonstrates,” cleverness in counsel, and strategy,” has great value in Greek society. Not only by observation, but direct quotation from contemporary sources. The men around Odysseus applaud him for taking down the obnoxious Thersites, speaking well of his character and standing in Greek …show more content…

Kings are expected to rule over their people, their home and kin absolutely and bring them great time. The standing of the family’s reputation last longer than any mans life, so Kings invest in what they will leave behind to their son, and what will be said of them when they die. Kings have great things expected of them, think to Agamemnon, who in his dreams conquers the great city of Troy, snatching it from its ruler King Priam, a dream of King so moved the Acheans, they followed his greatness to war.” Common folk are also held to very high standards of work,” both gods and men are angry with a man who lives idle,” a crime for laziness that earns the wrath of the gods (a clear moral dictation) is no small matter, Greek men must work hard through this they will earn Arête and great riches. Just as a common man must find individual wealth, a king must obtain the same for his Oikos, poverty is shameful

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